with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. welcome to "new day," thursday, september 26th, 6:00 in the east. yes, of course it is. coming up, secretary of state john kerry and his iranian counterpart are meeting and it matters. why? it will be the highest level meeting between the country since the 1979 iranian revolution. what is on the table for syria and iran's nuclear problem? we'll tell you. and former president bill clinton sat down with piers morgan in a wide-ranging interview. they covered syria to the looming government shutdown, even talking about clinton's wife's, hillary clinton's presidential ambitions. a fight breaking out between the brewers and the braves, clearing the benches, really. only the first inning. save this till the end at least. >> it looked like hockey. >> we'll tell you why a home run brought both teams on to the field. that's coming up in our "bleacher report." let's begin with the perfect

storm forming in our very imperfect congress right now. four days left until a government shutdown. senate leaders hoping to approve a spending bill by tomorrow that would keep washington running beyond october 1st. and also include funding for the president's health care law. when republicans scramble to find ways to stop obamacare, another bigger deadline loom, the debt ceiling must be raised in just about three week or america won't be able to pay its bills. dana bash live on capitol hill. >> reporter: you and i have seen this movie before. people out there who are fed up with congress careening from crisis to crisis won't be happy with the double whammy around the corner. it would be one thing for the government to shut down in four days. national parks would close, medical research interrupted. but then economic catastrophe may come 17 days later when the u.s. could default on its loans

if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. the white house is warning not to use it as a bargaining chip. >> there is no negotiating over congress's responsibility to ensure we do not default. >> reporter: gop sources tell cnn that as soon as saturday, house republicans are planning to pass a bill that raises the debt ceiling but also adds several gop priorities like the keystone pipeline or tax reform or even delaying obamacare for one year. >> the real play here is going to be leading up to the debt ceiling discussion where we could get a full delay for a year, including taxes of obamacare and i think the president is ready to do that. >> reporter: fat chance say democrats. >> their strategy will fail. because the financial markets will pistol whip the republican conference into doing then what they should be doing now. and that is pay america's bills. >> reporter: but let's go back to that first deadline, the looming government shutdown. >> senator, i know you're

exhausted. >> reporter: ted cruz finally sat down after his headline grabbing -- >> i do not like green eggs and ham. >> reporter: conservative celebrity making -- >> i tweeted a speech that ashton kutcher gave. >> reporter: 21 plus-hour talk-a-thon against obamacare. >> how do you feel standing there for so long? >> to be honest i feel terrific, energized that the american people had an opportunity, i hope, to engage in this debate and have their voice heard. >> reporter: but cruz only wants to fund the government if obamacare is defunded. i got an e-mail sent to conservative activists asking them to, quote, melt the phone lines to advocate for ted cruz's strategy, assuming that doesn't happen and he doesn't get enough republicans to come his way, the senate is expected to pass a bill fund the government but not defunding obamacare by friday or saturday. but that only leaves a couple of days for the house to act. wouldn't be surprised if he saw maybe a short-term stop gap

measure, chris. >> thank you very much for the reporting. let's turn now from the politics to the practicalities. i know it seems like the same old down there in d.c. but they're playing with your pocketbook. cnn's global economic analyst and assistant editing manager of "time" magazine and christine romans, our own expert and anchor of "cnn's money." let's get to this problem. shutdown, who doesn't go to work if there's a shutdown. >> federal workers, tens of thousands of them and anybody who's waiting on the federal government for paperwork, right? a lot of private businesses. back in 193, 1995, you didn't have so many private contractors working for the government, main street companies. it would be thousands and thousands of people would not go to work. >> i still get paid, right? >> it depends on if you're work for the federal government or not. there may be furloughs as there were in --

>> furlough means i'm off but i'm not paid. >> anybody who works for the federal government or gets paid by the federal government is worried right now. >> but if i am vulnerable, on social security, i'm getting disability payments, medicare, i still get it if there's a shutdown? >> if that's a shutdown, that's mandatory spending, medicare, social security. there could be delays if you have staffing issues. here's what's interesting, chris. if three weeks later within we go to that debt ceiling congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling, those are in jeopardy. you could see seniors not getting a social security check, hospitals not being paid for medicare and medicaid. main street would feel that immediately, the debt ceiling. >> let's get to debt ceiling. i am thinking about buying a car or a house. do i care? >> absolutely. it could affect interest rates. they're very likely to go up. back in 1979 we had a small technical default on a few of our treasury bills.

that raised interest rates by over 0.5%. that was a tiny thing, nothing like what we're facing now. we could see a hike if this goes on. >> why is it so much worse this time? >> we've never done it before. it's bad because we borrow so much money. when you look at, for example, $30 billion cash on hand is what the treasury secretary says we have. we have $58 billion of really important bills. those are just the important bills in november. how are we going to pay that? who's going to decide you're going to pay social security but not the chinese, you'll pay for highway funding and not hospitals. >> we say more debt is bad. we want to limit debt. we're saying here no more raising the debt ceiling. whien is thay en i why isn't that good? >> they're supposed to pay their bills. >> you can't not pay your credit card bill or mortgage. >> right. >> these are things we've already committed to. being back at this place again and again, this is the third year running that we've been in

this same spot, it eventually degrades people's faith in america and in our reserve pricing, in the value of the dollar. you could ultimately see the value of the dollar go down. >> chance that the markets react 100%, fair statement? >> we just don't -- it's so unpredictable. it's just playing with fire. you just don't do this. you don't mess with the full faith and credit of the united states government. you just don't do that. >> you're seeing a reactin in markets. markets have been down despite the fact that the federal reserve is still pumping money into the system. one of the reasons they're doing that, they're trying to buffer if we have a beltway bombshell. >> if we wait until you feel it on the household level, we've waited too long. >> you are absolutely right. thank you. let's move now to today's historic meeting at the united nations. secretary of state john kerry and other diplomats are sitting down with a top iranian official, it's the highest level meeting involving the two countries in more than 30 years and it could mark the start of new negotiations over iran's

nuclear program. nick peyton walsh is live at the u.n. with more. >> reporter: the real issue here is can iran actually deliver? we've seen a tone from hassan rouhani. on the table today and this is high level diplomacy, the permanent five members of the security council plus germany meeting with iran on the table is what kind of enrichment of uranium can iron do? many concerned it's enriching -- it's enough to be able to make a nuclear bomb in a hurry, if it wants to, what level of inspections should iran further consent to? iran's president suggesting perhaps he may want to deal within three months. whatever we see out of today's meeting, nothing has been tried like this since 2001, colin powell simply shaking the hand of his iranian counterpart. when the iranian foreign minister zarif sits down to john kerry, that's the highest level

of diplomacy for 34 years between these two countries. it simply is a big deal today. back to you, chris. >> the measure will still be what comes out of it. the so-called secretary of explaining stuff explains himself. former president bill clinton sat down with cnn's piers morgan. the potential shutdown. his wife's political ambitions and the situations in iran and syria, all laid bare, kind of. take a look. >> christiane amanpour for cnn yesterday interviewed president rouhani. he admits there had been a holocaust which was nothing ahmadinejad would ever admit to. what did you make of that? >> first of all, i think it's interesting commentary on the world in which we're living that admitting that the holocaust occurred qualifies as being a moderate. i was hoping and i think the president was, that the opening

of the u.n. would give them a chance to, you know, maybe even do more. i think we just have to keep working at it. and i feel the same way about the russian effort to get the syrian government to declare, disclose and hand over their chemical weapons. we'd be crazy not to take advantage of this. >> something sounds too good to be true, it usually is too good to be true. can we really believe vladimir putin with his own self-interest for russia is orchestrating this huge maneuver to remove all of assad's chemical weapons and it's just going to happen? >> we don't have to believe it. we just have to see what happens and make the most of what happens. you work for the best and prepare for the worst in this business. but i think it would be a terrible mistake not to take advantage of the opportunity. >> then you also have to have, mr. president, a functional washington. there is a sense that it has

never been more dysfunctional, more divisive, more personally abusive. you and newt gingrich eventually worked it out between you. how do you get stuff done in this dysfunctional washington. >> we worked it out while he was trying to run me out of town, we were still working together. because they shut the government down twice and wished to hold on to their jobs, the republicans, they wanted to maintain majority, they believed they had to show up for work and get something done. this re-apportionment has created a climate, particularly in the house of representatives but also in some of the states where they are basically one-party states, where they believe that they don't have to get anything done. they just believe that they have to demonize the opposition and say whatever they're going to say. >> i met your wife for the first time and your daughter today, actually. she looks fantastic. she looks completely reinvigorated. seemed on fire with ideas and

dymnamism. it screamed to me one thing, i'm running. can you put us all out of our misery? >> no. >> you have to keep asking at least. >> it's an interesting interview, piers morgan will come on later and we'll have more of it for you. stay tuned for that. washington navy yard shooter aaron alexis on his deadly rampage, investigators say alexis was delusional and believed that he was being controlled by electromagnetic waves. let's go live to cnn's joe johns with more on this investigation. troubling new details coming out this morning, joe. >> reporter: that's for sure, kate. we have tons of new information about what happened leading up to that horrible, bloody day last week at the washington navy yard. the picture of aaron alexis is still incomplete because it doesn't make any sense. ten days after the shooting, the fbi released the gripping silent

surveillance video of aaron alexis carrying out his deadly attack. he drives into the navy yard in his rented prius. the cameras pick him up as he enters the front door of building 197, ready for a rampage that killed 12 before he was shot down. >> there are indicators that alexis was prepared to die during the attack and that he accepted death as an inevitable consequence of his actions. >> reporter: you see him carrying his bag, hidden inside, a sawed off remington 870 which he removed in the bathroom. photos also released by the fbi show he left the bag behind. 22 minutes after he drove in, surveillance picks him up roaming the hall. he readies his weapon, hunting people you see him move downstairs and make his way down another hall as people flee through a connecting hallway. we're also getting a sharper picture of what drove alexis. >> there are multiple indicators that alexis held a delusional

belief that he was being control or influenced by extremely low frequency or e.l.f., elect electromagnetic waves. >> reporter: the fbi released photos of his gun and apparent reference to the electromagnetic waves on his gun. while the investigation into the mental illness continues, agents said they found writings by alexis that explained in plain language why he said he did it. >> a document retrieved from the electronic media stated, quote, ultralow frequency attack is what i've been subject to for the last three months. and to be perfectly honest, that is what has driven me to this." >> reporter: investigators don't blf he targeted specific people in his 60-minute killing spree. >> chris and kate, there has been irritation expressed by family members and one navy

official that the public release of the video was insensitive. but a source said the fbi had more graphic pictures and did not release them. chris and kate. >> you can be sure of that. all right, joe, thanks so much for the update. a lot of news going on right now. let's get to michaela for the latest. making news, a just released audio message reportedly from al shabaab's leader, warning of more violence. cnn has not independently verified the audio's authenticity. in the meantime, fbi agents are there, fingerprinting, testing dna and analyzing ballistics in order to identify victims and the al shabaab attackers who died there. more than 60 people were killed in that siege. the number is expected to go up. syrian president bashar al assad says he doesn't discount the possibility of a u.s. attack even after agreeing to forfeit chemical weapons. in an interview with venezuela's

state-r state-run televias. about a dozen factions including one linked to al qaeda said to have broken off. back here at home, a deadly plane accident in suburban chicago. a female passenger was killed, the pilot severely injured when a single engine plane slammed into a parking lot. it crashed into a tree, a light pole and three vehicles before bursting into flames. investigators still trying to determine exactly what caused that crash. jury deliberations in the michael jackson wrongful death case could begin as early as this afternoon. closing arguments continue this morning with rebuttal from attorneys representing the jackson family. on wednesday, the attorney for concert promoter aeg live told the jury that michael jackson died as the result of his own bad choices. aeg live claims it didn't know anything about jackson's use of

propofol until after he passed away. george h.w. bush agreeing to be an official witness to a same-sex marriage last weekend in maine. they attended the wedding of two female friends in kennebunkport. those are your headlines. it is nice to see. looking well, too. >> let's move to the forecast. let's get to indra. >> is it nice to see snow already this early? i'm going to say no. >> i'm going to say yes. >> to see it, yes. to be in it, no. >> if i can snowboard in it, everything changes. >> tetons got a foot of snow already. this is so early. kate is like, yeah, bring it. even montana. yellow stone about half a foot of snow. unbelievable, this big storm in the pacific northwest caused all of this already. it is still snowing in the region. in fact we could see another 6 inches to possibly even a foot of snow, idaho, montana, pushing in through wyoming today.

the big story if you're on the pacific northwest is not just that but it is cold. keep in mind to have snow this early the temperatures have to go way down and it's chilly. we're talking 15, maybe 20 degrees below average for your afternoon highs. here's where it gets tricky. east of the area, temperatures are 15, 20 degrees above average for the afternoon high. what does that mean for us? we'll start watching as that same cold front that produced that snow makes its way east. we'll see the two air masses clash. we'll be talking about thunderstorms picking up over the next several days. the east coast, 70s, perfect, it's like the west. straight from the east to the southeast, dry and beautiful. >> is it time to plan our team snowboarding trip? >> yes. >> why is there silence? >> because he has no game. >> i feel like this plan ends up with me driving and pay for most of this. >> i'll show up. >> i'll do the planning part of this. >> good idea, michaela.

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this morning, a former teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old student will walk out of a montana jail after 31 days. the short sentence sparked outrage, as did comments from the judge that seemed to partly blame the young victim. here's cnn's kyung lah. >> reporter: prison has been stacey rambolt's home for the last 31 days. he's set it walk out after having just served one month behind bars after raping his 14-year-old student. charisse was tormented by blaming and victim blaming. before the case was heard, charisse morales committed suicide. >> she's beautiful. hopefully he'll get justice. . i hope. >> reporter: justice has failed at every step says charisse's mother. not only did she lose her daughter, the judge, todd baugh

handed down a short sentence saying morales looked older than her chronological age and was as much in control as the then 49-year-old rambolt. the judge who has ducked cnn's questions has since admitted the sentence may have been ill laleh. state laws mandate a two-year minimum for this crime. the sentence and the judge's comments sparked national outrage. earlier this week, petitions with the 140,000 signatures were delivered to a montana judicial watchdog panel, demanding the judge's removal and the court's, prosecutors have appealed the sentence to the state supreme court, hoping to send him back to prison. for the victim's mother, a cry for justice, a hollow search along a trail of anguish. >> does that pain ever fade? >> no. no.

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♪ sweet emotion >> announcer: you're watching "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. a little aerosmith for you. welcome back to "new day," thursday, september 26th. let's go straight to michaela for the top stories. the highest level meeting between the u.s. and iran in more than three decades set for today. john kerry will meet mohammed zarif at the united nations. official meetings between the u.s. and iran haven't gone this high up since the 1979 iranian revolution. the navy yard shooter delusional, thinking low frequency electromagnetic waves were controlling him and driving

him to kill. that's what the fbi is saying about aaron alexis, based on information they received from his thumb drives, phones and computers. authorities said he also acted alone and was not targeting anyone specifically in that attack. 12 people were killed, 4 others wounded in the rampage last week. the man known as former new england patriot aaron hernandez's right-hand man back in court for a bail hearing. his attorneys will get to his his $500,000 cash bail reduced. the d.a. hinted that more evidence will come to light at the hearing. wallace pleaded not guilty as an accessory after the fact in the murder of odin lloyd. hernandez faces murder and weapons charges in connection with lloyd's death. new york mayor grabs headlines. a public tweet says if you're ever president of the united states i call dibs on first lady. well, buzz feed, posted a direct

message exchange, date stamped of this year, the east coast loves you and by the east coast i mean me. she responds, well, now i'm blushing. why do i feel like a 13-year-old? booker's spokesman calls the whole thing pretty innocuous. an adorable 5-year-old girl from long island getting credit for saving mama's life. they were dog sitting for a neighbor when the child's mother, a diabetic fainted. the little girl promptly reached for the phone and knew exactly what to do. >> hello. my mom is diabetic and she is -- she is in a room and my mom is like passed out. i'm 5 years old and i tried to call my daddy but it didn't work because i don't know the phone number. >> jillian said she knew how to call 911 because her mother taught her how.

and did you see how calm she was? >> that's the part. that's remarkable. >> well done. >> good job, mommy and daddy. >> that is a phenomenal kid. >> 5 years old. >> note to self. that's why most parents drill those phone numbers in. it's hard for a kid to remember the ten digits that go along with a number. she remembered the three ma mattered most. >> very good point. our political gut check, counting down, the government funding deadline four days away now. also now, house republicans are recalibrating their strategy. have they decided to forgo a government shutdown fight and gear up for a new fight on the nation's debt ceiling? cnn chief national correspondent john king is here to break it all down for us. i'm breaking down, clearly and getting very emotional about the fact that we're doing this all over again, john. so it looks like house republicans are working towards a new approach. saying let's get past the government -- let's get past the government shutdown and focus on

fighting it out over the debt ceiling. what is the strategy that you're hearing that they're working on? >> kate, this is where the leadership wanted to wage this fight all along. they didn't want to get bogged down in the government shutdown fight. we'll know much more by the end of the day today. the leadership has a strategy, it's going to meet with the rank and file today and essentially say, look, we can't win this shutdown fight. let's keep the government open and let's plan the our flag again in the debt ceiling fight. why do they think that's a better strategy? the leadership thinks number one, arguing about my way or the highway on the health care bill with the risk of selling down the government, you can't sell that to the broad swath of american people. arguing that the government spends too much and borrows too much and they should be able to get something in exchange, letting the government borrow more money. the republicans think that is safer ground politically. can they get anything from the president? >> the president has said all along he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. so do republicans think that he is bluffing or this is just kind

of an opening bargaining position for him? >> well, here's their point. the president has negotiated in the past. >> true. >> they know that. >> and so they believe number one he has in the past, maybe he will in the future. number two, they believe it is a much more tenable position to say to the american people, wait a minute, we have divided government. of course the president has to negotiate. they think they can put the president on the defensive, saying you just told us we were having a my way or highway debate. now you're having a my way or highway debate. they think that's a much stronger political position to be in than saying we're not going to fun your health care plan, if the senate democrats won't go along we'll shut down the government. we'll see what they get from the president. it is a much safer place for the republicans to be. >> it does seem so. when you look at the laundry list of the proposals they want to attach to the negotiation of the debt ceiling, approval of

the keystone pipeline, a one-year delay in the individual mandate for obamacare, tax reform, entitlement reform. where did the talk go of a grand bargain? >> out the window. >> it seems like a different approach now. >> it went out the window because they don't trust each other, the president and republican leadership were unable to strike that grand bargain back at a time when they might have a better political environment to do it. forget about that now, heading into the midterm election year. when you put that list up, there's no way senate democrats will go along with everything there and then there's no way the president will go along with everything there. the president is not going to willingly delay his health care plan by a year. however, again, it could potentially force some tough votes by senate democrats up for re-election next year and maybe the republicans can get something. maybe they get the keystone pipeline, maybe they can negotiate something on the issue of tax reform. if they plan the their flag again and say my way or the highway, they won't win but they do believe, kate, it's a much better place to be in and if nothing else it puts pressure on

the democrats after several days in which we've been having the conversation in which the democrats have been watching the republicans fight amongst themselves. >> i think the key is just as you said at the beginning, the house republican leader is meeting with rank and file today. when they come out of that meeting we'll get a better temperature if there's more unity or every man for themselves on this issue. we'll see. >> watch for steam around the capitol today. >> exactly. >> it's not just the temperature outside. >> no. >> thank you, john. we'll see you tomorrow. >> isn't it weird they would think the debt creeling is something they have more political leverage with when if they mess it up, they can't fix it whereas they can with the shutdown? >> that's an excellent point. you talk to every analyst, a government shutdown is a headache. debt ceiling that can have catastrophic repercussions. >> your head comes off. >> exactly. >> those are the noises we'll hear. coming up on "new day," rearview cameras in every new car. congress ordered them to become law more than two years ago. what happened? safety groups claim feet are

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welcome back to "new day." we start in pakistan where the death toll is climbing after this weekend. we go to islamabad. >> reporter: the death toll continues to rise, more than 500 people injured and there's huge concern for survivors too who remain in the area. as we head into october, the

hottest month of the year. temperatures soaring to 40 degrees celsius. more than 100 fahrenheit. people there don't have any shelter. there certainly isn't enough shelter and they don't have clean drinking water to survive the heat and extreme temperatures. 21,000 homes are believed to have been obliterated. back to you, kate. >> thank you so much. to china where a young man is getting ready for a remarkable transplant surgery. cnn's paula hancocks has that story from hong kong. >> reporter: a man in china will soon have a new face thanks to an intricate reconstructive surgery. chinese state media says they grew a nose on his forehead. the man lost his nose due to infection from a car accident last year. cctv says that doctors took a skin tissue expander and managed to shape the new nose, using

cartilage from his ribs. it took nine months to grow. back to you, kate. >> no way. >> that is remarkable. >> no way. >> yes. well, okay. >> they grew a nose -- oh, yeah, because i saw it. they gru a nose on his head. >> on a forehead. >> it was right there. >> they're going to put it on his nose area. >> that's remarkable. >> i mean, that is amazing. thank god for doctors. >> you want one, an extra nose? >> science. >> there we go. >> that is impressive. that is impressive. it makes this next story fall flat by comparison but important nonetheless. it's no nose on the head but let me tell you. rearview cameras matter. you have one. you know this. they're recommended by the government. the key word is recommended. they're not required. of course many carmakers haven't put them in. that wiggle room is costing lives. that's what car safety advocates say. they're suing the federal government to milwaukee a change. cnn's rene marsh.

>> reporter: the group that's suing want systems like this one in all new cars so that when you reverse, you see exactly what's going on behind you. >> as i was backing up i felt a lump, a little bump. >> reporter: it was october 2002 when dr. greg gulbrasen got into his car and reversed. >> 2-year-old boy, blue pajamas, looking straight up, hold on to his blanket, as a pediatrician i knew right away i had lost him. >> reporter: he accidentally ran over his son cameron. in 2008 congress passed a law in the child's name, requiring the department of transportation do something to prevent backup accidents. but more than two years past the congressional deadline, still no action.

the doctor and two safety groups are suing the government, calling for mandatory rearview mirrors in all new vehicles. >> behind the vehicle are 62 churn and not a single one could be seen. >> never drive a car forward with the same poor visibility that we have going backwards without a camera. >> reporter: the government says more than 200 people are killed and 18,000 injured every year in backover crashes. gulbransen has a video system in his suv, he has no blind zone. he says until all new cars are required to have rearview cameras, more children will suffer the same fate as cameron. >> it's effective. it's available. and it is worth a fraction of what i would pay to have my son back. >> all right. this week the department of

transportation recommended that new cars have video systems like this one but the mandatory rule isn't expected until 2015. they are still analyzing the impact of what a mandatory rule would mean. chris, kate? >> impact means money. right? >> yes. >> thank you, rene for the reporting. hope you make it to work on time. seem to be running late, still in the car. it's better to be responsible, pay more attention. the numbers tell a different story. that's why the experts are so high on the cameras. there's tons of problems because we don't have the cameras. >> you can't see little things back there. >> right. coming up next on "new day," some wild pigs on the loose in a very unexpected place. they're eating garbage and scaring neighborhood kids. now some hog hunters are trying to get them out. why is this a story? because it's crazy. we'll tell you where this is happening. you might recall this week bono showed off his bill clinton impersonation.

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welcome back to "new day." when you picture a wild pig you're probably thinking about porky without a home, right? friends you have not seen pigs like these on the farm. a georgia suburb just outside atlanta is under siege. some are up to 400 pounds of bad intentions with the ability and often the desire to do damage to you, your property as well.

cnn's nick valencia has more from lithonia, georgia. >> reporter: unwelcome new neighbors have moved into this atlanta suburb. >> probably that high and maybe four feet long. >> reporter: we're talking in pounds? >> 300, 400 pounds. >> reporter: some residents say there are at least four feral pigs on the loose, eating garbage, chasing kids and scaring parents. they can become aggressive. >> right there, same spot. >> reporter: robin mays' daughter shot this video from inside their home. >> he came back here, right about where you see the stumps right there. >> you're concerned about the kids, especially, kids coming home from the bus stop, walking down the streets, going back home. >> reporter: so far no one has been hurt. carl hines who has lived here from nine years isn't concerned anyone will be. >> where i'm from there are a

lot of pigs around. >> we're going down to the other site. >> reporter: some area residents have decided to fix the problem themselves. >> there's a special remedy we use to bait hogs. we hunt a lot of hogs. we mix dog food, molasses and corn together. >> reporter: animal control is also concerned about the wild hogs. >> when i first heard it, i was like i didn't really believe it. i figured it might be a domesticated pig. after seeing the pictures, obviously we do have a problem. >> reporter: they hired professional trappers to capture the feral pigs. >> this will be something that is an oddity obviously for metro atlanta, even greater metro atlanta. >> reporter: and the trappers are already out here early this morning. there's a wooded area with a creek that runs right through that, right behind me here. officials think that's where the pigs hang out. they're hoping to put this near that and bait these pigs and get the neighborhood back to normal again. chris and kate, back to you.

>> seeing how big that cage is shows you how big of a problem they have. wow, nick. >> look at the size of the cage. >> that is amazing. thanks, nick. did you hear the ingredients, dog food, molasses and corn. >> that's what i had for breakfast. >> we need a big cage for you, too. you thought that was our must-see moment? oh, no. yesterday we showed you bono doing a spot on impression of president clinton. i felt like the rock star on that occasion. but together, you know, we did this drop the debt thing. >> not to be outdone, mr. clinton got the u2 front man back on piers morgan live right here on cnn last night. check it out. >> i've been singing so long and screaming loud at these concerts that i'm hoarse. i have to be careful with my voice. that's why all my charities only

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it's an unwritten rule in baseball, when you hit a home run, you take a moment but you can't sit there and admire it. the brewers carlos gomez broke that rule last night and sparked one heck of a bench-clearing brawl with the atlanta braves. let's bring in andy scholes for this morning's "bleacher report." this was a doozy. >> it really was. you're likely to get plunked the next time you come up or two, an all-out brawl. carlos gomez admired it for quite a while before he finally started running. mccann and freeman didn't like it. they exchanged words with gomez. mccann had had enough by the time gomez gets to third. both benches cleared.

a few punches were thrown. gomez and freeman were rejected from the game. gomez later apologized for his behavior via twitter saying it was unacceptable. all right. trending right now on bleacherreport.com, read about one of the greatest comebacks in sports history. it happened in america's cup. team new zealand had eight chances of winning the boat race series but oracle team usa would not give up. yesterday they capped off an improbable comeback winning the final race to reclaim the america's cup trophy. guys, team usa, they were down -1 in this best of 17 series. they had to rattle off eight wins in a row to win it. just an incredible comeback for them. >> that is incredible. that was neat. >> wow. they were going so fast they wear crash helmets. >> it's true. i had a family member who will thank us because the family member is saying why aren't you covering the america's cup? this is crazy. >> can't say that anymore. >> thank you, andy.

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>> announcer: what you need to know -- >> i think it's interesting commentary. >> announcer: what you have to see. ♪ >> announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo, kate bolduan, and michaela pereira. good morning. welcome back to "new day." it's thursday, september 26th, 7:00 in the east. coming up this hour, this is a wacky story. so much for a change in tone. as we reported, iran's president condemned the holocaust to our own christiane amanpour. the fact that he even admitted it happened made news. but the state-run agency in iran says he didn't. and cnn got that wrong. what is going on here? we'll head to tehran for a report. we also have chilling video out of washington. the navy yard shooter caught on tape during his rampage. well, now the fbi says he was delusional. we'll have more on what authorities found on his gun and

his computer. we'll talk about home insurance. you need it to keep you safe from floods and quakes. we'll tell you about one family that is about to lose theirs because of their pet. more and more people are trying to figure out how their insurance company can pull their coverage just because of their canines. we'll have both sides of the story, coming up. let's start this hour with developments on capitol hill. a possible government shutdown, now four days away. senate leaders hope to approve a spending bill in the next day or two. that's not the only deadline congress is facing now. the debt ceiling needs to be raised again. so government can pay its bills. democrats and republicans already drawing battle lines for that fight. let's do it all over again, i guess. let's go to cnn's chief congressional correspondent dana bash on capitol hill. i can almost hear people's heads just shaking when they hear this happening all over again, dana. >> reporter: that's right, kate. i talked to lawmakers in the hallways in congress and they will tell you their constituents are suffering from crisis

fatigue. but if that's true, the next three weeks is really going to exhaust their patience. >> reporter: it would be one thing for the government to shut down in four days. national parks would close, medical research interrupted. but then economic catastrophe may come 17 days later when the u.s. could default on its loans if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. the white house is warning not to use it as a bargaining chip. >> there is no negotiating over congress's responsibility to ensure we do not default. >> reporter: gop sources tell cnn that as soon as saturday, house republicans are planning to pass a bill that raises the debt ceiling but also adds several gop priorities like the keystone pipeline or tax reform or even delaying obamacare for one year. >> the real play here is going to be leading up to the debt ceiling discussion where we could get a full delay for a year, including taxes of obamacare and i think the president is ready to do that.

>> reporter: fat chance say democrats. >> their strategy will fail. because the financial markets will pistol whip the republican conference into doing then what they should be doing now. and that is pay america's bills. >> reporter: but let's go back to that first deadline, the looming government shutdown. >> senator, i know you're exhausted. >> reporter: ted cruz finally sat down after his headline grabbing -- >> i do not like green eggs and ham. >> reporter: conservative celebrity making -- >> i tweeted a speech that ashton kutcher gave. >> reporter: 21 plus-hour talk-a-thon against obamacare. >> how do you feel standing there for so long? >> to be honest i feel terrific, i feel energized that the american people had an opportunity, i hope, to engage in this debate and have their voice heard. >> reporter: but cruz only wants to fund the government if obamacare is defunded. assuming cruz does not get enough republicans to come his way on that and looking at

conservative editorial pages this morning, it looks maybe even more unlikely, the senate is expected to vote friday or saturday to fund the government but not defund obamacare. chris, that will put this back in the house's court and it will just be two or three days they have to decide what to do before that deadline happens. >> all right, dana, thank you. weath one thing is sure, obamacare is in the crosshairs and a lot of people have misgivings about it. let's bring in someone who understands the law better than anyone else, trying desperately to get it implemented for october 1st and explain it to people. we are going to bring in the secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius. i'm looking down at my notes as i'm introducing you. you can judge the politics any way you want. one thing from polls and per semgs seems clear, the narrative on obamacare is negative right now. people think it's big government at its worst.

it's going to cost more money, restrict their lives. how do you attribute this loss in message if not in policy right now? >> i think, chris, what we've seen for 3 1/2 years is a relentless battle driving misinformation, both from opponents of the law itself and a lot of media and now paid advertising continuing to give the american public information that just isn't correct. so what we're trying to do is remind people what's already happened. 3 million young adults already have insurance coverage on their parents plan. lots of parents with a child with a pre-existing condition no longer have to worry about the company dumping their child out of the marketplace. seniors have stronger benefits in medicare and the slowest growth rate in 50 years. lots of consumers across the country, millions of americans got a check back from their insurance company because of the

80/20 rule. those patient protections are already in place and the final piece of the puzzle is going to start on october 1st on tuesday of next week when a lot of -- about 15% of americans who don't have affordable coverage at through their workplace or uninsured have new choices in the marketplace. >> let's go through the misgivings. okay? you put out the big sell there. let me hit you with what the opposition is and you can answer them directly. >> sure. >> you're helping, you're killing business, you have u.p.s., trader joe's, they are saying they'll have to cut benefits, obamacare is costing too much. they're cutting back on people's hours to get around it. you're forcing insurance down people's throats instead of letting the market work. >> actually that just isn't true. what we see is an increase in full-time jobs. there's a decrease in the number of americans working part-time hours and the good news for those folks who do work part

time and there will always be part-time workers in every business, is that they'll have an affordable insurance option for the first time ever. it used to be that only if you had certain

we owe china billions. we wouldn't be able to pay social security checks to seniors or medicare and medicaid payments to hospitals. over 110 million people are on one of those programs. what could be worse here? we don't know what would happen. how will the markets react? we don't know.

how many hundreds of billions of dollars do we use in borrowing cost? three weeks away, october 17th, that is the moment when you have $60 billion every day you have to pay out and only $20 billion coming in. that's math that is impossible and dangerous when you mess around with the full face of credit in the united states. >> more dangerous and larger repercussions than a government shutdown, even though it's easier to understand a government shutdown, debt ceiling could be far reaching. >> both are dangerous and stupid. the debt ceiling would be catastrophic. >> christine, thanks so much. >> politicians can't fix it. that's the problem. >> exactly. all right, so, big meetings at the u.n. did you know that history is being made there? could be made today. why? first timeç ever in more than three decades, really, top officials from the u.s. and iran will sit down and talk face to face. first time in three decades. think about that. they're going to be sitting down, the man on the right of your screen, secretary of state john kerry, iranian foreign

minister mohammad zarif. that is who will be meeting. let's bring in national correspondent nick paton walsh. he's live at the u.n. >> reporter: chris, the real issue is can iran be trusted? we know what will be on the table. amongst the softer things we've heard from the new iranian president hassan rouhani, a much friendlier tone. he did say iran wants to keep hold of nuclear technologies. these talks we're about to slow enrichment down to make the step to a nuclear weapon a lot harder and getting more inspections. iran president saying to "the washington post," he'd like to see a deal in three to six months. all that aside today is absolutely monumental. because the first time in 34 years john kerry will be in the same room in a direct meeting. other diplomats in the room, other countries in the room with his iranian counterpart. colin powell shook the hand of his counterpart in 2001, no

meeting like this. despite the turmoil in the middle east right now, today is really something. back to you, kate. >> nick, thanks so much for that. let's talk more about another element of what happened at the u.n. iran's new president made headlines when he condemned the holocaust during an exclusive interview with cnn's christiane amanpour. why? well, president rouhani's comments come in stark contrast to statements made by his predecessor. former iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad. the semiofficial iranian news agency is questioning the accuracy of cnn's translation of that interview. let's go live to cnn's reza sayah in tehran. it shows how delicate that relationship is when they are already questioning a translation of an interview. >> reporter: yes, kate. this was a strange incident that came out of nowhere, but considering what's happening in new york today, it's important not to blow this out of proportion and point out that this controversy was sparked by a single hard-line news

organization with no direct official links to the state government but it is backed by the revolutionary guard. president rouhani acknowledged the holocaust and this hardline news organization denied he acknowledged it and criticized cnn. this was the question by cnn's christiane amanpour. >> i want to know your position on the holocaust. do you accept what it was and what was it? >> reporter: this was the answer by iranian president hassan rouhani. >> translator: when it comes to speaking of the dimensions of the holocaust, it is the historians that should reflect on it. but in general, i can tell you that any crime that happens in history against humanity, including the crime the nazis created towards the jews is reprehensible and condemnable. >> reporter: top papers and tv networks contrasted rouhani's commentses with former iranian

president mahmoud ahmadinejad who often questioned the holocaust in speeches at the u.n. general assembly. back here in iran, rouhani's comments received little news attention. they claimed rouhani never explicitly acknowledged the holocaust and accused of cnn of fabricating the report by mistranslating rouhani's answer. cnn stands by its reporting, the translaying was provided by the president's own translator. the farce news website shows the translation from christiane amanpour's interview and claims these parts have been added or completely altered and that this statement was a product of conceptual and nonprecise translation. >> ridiculous. i don't dignify that with a comment. what i can say is we put the entire transcript out online. we have the 56-minute interview. we have his translator.

i know what he said. >> reporter: president rouhani's comment once again puts a spotlight on iran's bitter and complicated rivalry with israel. iranian hard-liners frequently suggested israeli leaders embellish and exaggerate the horrors of the holocaust to justify the occupation of palestinian land. israeli leaders have been trying to accuse the leadership of anti-semitism and pointed to their skepticism of the holocaust as proof. president rouhani's comments seem to be an effort to defuse iranian/israeli efforts at a cost of annoying hard-liners. >> this bizarre controversy comes against the backdrop of the possibility of improved relations between iran and the u.s. and it shows that president rouhani has to be careful with what he says, because a lot of people are listening to every word he says. and the reaction that follows.

chris? >> reza, thank you very much for the reporting. we'll show you something that the fbi says is painful but important. video that shows just how mentally ill aaron alexis was when he attacked the innocent at the washington navy yard. surveillance video shows alexis stalking the hallways and people in the distance, running for their lives. the fbi says the video brings the shooter's motive into focus. for more we go to joe johns in washington. good morning, joe. >> reporter: good morning, chris. we have the new video and photographs along with search warrant information. much of the evidence pointing to the signs of mental illness in the case of navy yard shooter aaron alexis. it tells the authorities he wasn't targeting anyone in particular and now there are some real clues on what drove him to do it.

>> reporter: ten days after the shooting, the fbi released the gripping silent surveillance video of aaron alexis carrying out his deadly attack. he drives into the navy yard in his rented prius. the cameras pick him up as he enters the front door of building 197, ready for a rampage that killed 12 before he was shot down. >> there are indicators that alexis was prepared to die during the attack and that he accepted death as an inevitable consequence of his actions. ç >> reporter: you see him carrying his bag, hidden inside, a sawed off remington 870 which he removed in the bathroom. photos also released by the fbi show he left the bag behind. 22 minutes after he drove in, surveillance picks him up roaming the hall. he readies his weapon, hunting people, you see him move downstairs and make his way down another hall as people flee through a connecting hallway. in addition to seeing this chilling tape, we're also getting a sharper picture of what drove alexis. >> there are multiple indicators that alexis held a delusional belief that he was being controled or influenced by extremely low frequency or

e.l.f., electromagnetic waves. >> reporter: the fbi released photos of his gun and apparent reference to the magnetic waves carved on the gun. while the investigation into the mental illness continues, agents said they found writings by alexis that explained in plain language why he said he did it. >> a document retrieved from the electronic media stated, quote, ultralow frequency attack is what i've been subject to for the last three months. and to be perfectly honest, that is what has driven me to this. >> reporter: investigators don't believe he targeted specific people in his 60-minute killing spree. >> there's been irritation expressed by a family member of one of the victims and by one navy official that the public release of the video was insensitive but a source said

the fbi had more graphic pictures and did not release them. chris and kate. >> joe johns, thanks so much. a lot of news developing at this very hour. let's get straight to michaela for the latest. >> reporter: al shabaab, the islamist terrorist group based in somalia saying it was behind the deadly mall attack in kenya, warning also of more violence. more than 60ç people still unaccounted for in that 3458 attack in kenya. an american citizen sentenced to 25 years in prison for conspireing to sell missiles, rifles and other weapons to the taliban. a u.s. attorney says starting in 2010, two people communicated with an undercover dea agent who they thought was with the taliban. they thought they had a deal for $25 million worth of arms, ammunition and training. both men were extradited to the

u.s. to stand trial. the senate intelligence committee holding a public hearing to discuss proposed challenges to the nsa's collection of american records. democratic and republican senators joining forces on the new legislation which would create a constitutional advocate to represent the public in the secret court overseeing the nsa. government surveillance programs have come under fire since edward snowden's disclosures earlier this year. confrontations outside court off this appearance. he just pleaded guilty to an unrelated assault charge. he ducked into a police station where hecklers called him a murderer and shouted, where's alya? an arizona farmer growing pink pumpkins. he accidentally cross pollinated white and red cinderella

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dogs and now some families are outraged.ç >> he does everything here, huh? >> reporter: for many home owners, a dog is more than just a best friend. it's a member of the family. >> you treat them the same way you treat your kids. >> reporter: but now, many dog lovers like colorado resident suzy salazar are having to choose between fido at home or a home without insurance. >> we were informed that you have a pit bull in your home and we have to drop your coverage. >> reporter: after being with the same insurance company for nearly 17 years, american family insurance dropped salazar in april. the company spokesperson explaining their decision to our affiliate kusa. >> we made a decision that there were certain breeds of dogs that we would no longer insure and pit bulls are one of those breeds. >> reporter: just two weeks ago, indiana resident brad ronkey faced a similar ultimatum. >> letter in the mailbox saying we had to get rid of our dogs.

>> reporter: out of the seven years shelter insurance has provided him coverage, his pit bulls have been around for the last five. >> i don't see how they can say they're aggressive when they never met the dog. >> reporter: "forbes" magazine says insurance companies tend to deny to these breeds, the top four, pit bulls, doberman pinchers, rottweilers and german shepherds. >> it's important that dog owners are responsible. >> reporter: the insurance information institute says dog bites account for one-third of all homeowner's insurance liability claims, costing insurance companies nearly $490 million last year. salazar says the company never asked her if she had a pit bull, adding that even after her efforts to get a vet's recommendation, they wouldn't throw her a bone. >> i am mad. i'm upset. >> reporter: now, nationwide dog

lovers are fighting back. some local governments prohibit breed specific legislation, while a couple of states have laws barring insurers from cancelling or denying coverage based on bride. >> the family doesn't necessarily have to give up the pet. uz a lot of home owners insurance companies out there. make some calls. >> that's very good advice. in response to brad's story, based on sound actuarial, and underwriting principles, shelter chooses not to insure individuals with breeds known so exhibit vicious tendencies. shelter reviews individual situations regarding breeds known to have vicious tendencies on a case by case basis. >> i wonder why they don't tell you or ask you ahead of time. >> that's the problem. >> do you have one of these breeds? you may find out if somebody comes to your house, somebody from the insurance company and sees the dog and sends you a

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>> announcer: you're watching "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. welcome back to "new day," everyone. it is thursday, september 26th. let's get straight to michaela for the latest headlines. making news, the highest level face-to-face meeting between diplomats from tehran and the u.s. happening today. secretary of state john kerry meeting with his counterpart as well as five other world powers. surveillance video showing that the washington navy yard gunman as he prepares for his rampage. you see aaron alexis walking with his gun, roaming the halls. people in the distance running for cover. when they see what is about to transpire. the fbi now says alexis was under the belief that he was being controlled by electromagnetic waves. the death toll from tuesday's earthquake in pakistan

climbing 350 deaths are confirmed. 500 more injured. over 20,000 homes were also destroyed. that 7.7 magnitude earthquake struck in a remote southern area of the country. the army says it's air lifting rescue troops to help the original deployment sent by truck. a high school football coach in roosevelt, utah suspended his entire team for lack of character. he made the decision after finding out players have been skipping class and cyberbullying a fellow student. every player now has a list of things they need to do to get back on the field. and instead of playing ball this weekend, they'll be performing community service. that's what a coach is about. fulfilling character, not just, you know, back to the game. >> that's completely right. >> that's what i'm talking ìc >> we're just four days away from a possible government shutdown and a fight over rising the debt ceiling is right around the corner, unfortunately. our economy hanging in the balance. here to break down both sides of this ongoing debate, host of cnn

"crossfire" and democratic strategist be stephanie cutter and republican strategist anna navarro. >> i wish that football coach was running congress right now. >> great to see you both. anna, you were no fan of ted cruz's approach in how to handle this government shutdown or the threat of a government shutdown. what do you think of the strategy that house republicans are working on now, get past the shutdown is what they're thinking and have the real fight over the debt ceiling. >> i think that has some merit to it. frankly, there's been a delay for corporations. what they're asking for is a delay for individuals of one year. there's a lot of questions surrounding obamacare. there's a lot of lack of familiarity, lack of information. you look at the polls, most people have questions, don't understand what it is. there's got to be a better job explaining it by democrats and if we're going to fix what needs to be fixed, i'm not going to come on tv and say there's not good things about obamacare, but

let's also stop pretending there's not bad things about obamacare. that could be fixed in one year if our folks got together, compromised and fixed what needs fixed. >> anna makes a key point here. what about compromise, stephanie? because when it comes to the debt ceiling, the president said he will not negotiate. isn't that what divided government is about, negotiating and compromise? >> first of all on the affordable care act, obamacare, that is -- we're days away from people having the ability to sign up for new plans, there's plenty of time. they have six months, the open window to buy a plan. and there is some information that needs to get out there but that's what people are doing now. all over the country, rates just got put out yesterday. people are learning what their options are. they're saying that they have better options and lower prices. so this isn't about compromise. this is about what republicans have been trying to do for three have been trying to do for three years now. u been the law of the

land for three years. they don't want to tweak this law to make it better, they want it to go away. unfortunately they haven't been able to do that, in elections they haven't been able to do that, in the supreme court they haven't been able to do that and with more than 40 votes in congress they haven't been able to do that. if they have ideas to make this law better, the president has said he's open to it, democrats are open to it but that's not what this is about. >> stephanie is not saying anything that's breaking news. we all know the president is not going to defund or delay any more the core of obamacare. so is the fact that that's where republicans want to start this -- negotiating this, bargaining with possible compromise over the debt ceiling, does that hurt their argument that this is their starting point? >> no, start big, kate. in any negotiation you start big. off youly if he gave a delay to corporations, if they've done things like given exceptions to legislators and staff, there's also other people who deserve exceptions and delays.

there are all sorts of bad things coming out. you'll see young people in some of the states that have exchanges paying more than what they're currently paying in the state exchanges. there's a lot of little things we are seeing every day, people being shifted from their jobs, being turned into part-time employees, being shifted from the current insurance companies that they have right now, private insurance. there's a lot of things that need to be fixed. i have seen -- i don't think it's fair to paint all republicans with one broad brush. i think to my happy surprise rand paul came out, who is a leader of the republican party recently, and say, we need to compromise on this. there may be a middle ground. >> where is the middle ground then, stephanie? because isn't the president opening himself up to the same criticism that he has lobbed at republicans over the my way or the highway approach when it comes to the debt ceiling? >> kate, first of all we have to deal with the government shutdown which is four days away. now the senate will pass a continuing resolution to fund

the government without the defunding of obamacare, send it back to the house. let's see what the house passes. because of ted cruz, john boehner, the leader of the house, is painted into a corner. how is he going toç get those a party members to vote for a bill that doesn't have defunding on it? because that's a major fold for them. that's a major failure. we need to figure out how we're going to fund the government. in terms of the debt ceiling, let's remember, a couple years ago, the president was open to negotiating on the debt ceiling. he wanted to put a fiscal plan in place to reduce deficit in a balanced way. days before the government was going to default, john boehner walked away. and to put the government and the economy, the ability to pay our bills, in jeopardy, we got downgraded, our credit rating got downgraded. in terms of open to compromise, there's nobody to negotiate with. john boehner is not in control of the house caucus. that's controlled by 45 tea party members. it's not clear what anything could get through.

so the president is simply saying, i'm not going to play games over our ability to pay our bills. bills that congress obligated us to. you know, if you have an idea of how to reduce the deficit or improve the health care law, he's open to it. but this is not a negotiation that's going on because there's nobody to negotiate with. >> i think one thing we can all agree on is there is no trust between the white house and republicans on capitol hill. >> or between the american people and washington. >> that's a great point. we've not decided on any middle ground at least here today. that means you'll have to come back, stephanie cutter, anna navarro, great to see you. thanks so much, guys. coming up on "new day," former president clinton gets candid. find out his thoughts on iran's new leadership, russia and dysfunction in washington. piers morgan will join us live for that. and a powerball winner says be careful what you wish for, why he says hitting the jackpot wasn't all it's cracked up to be. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness...

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♪ if i had a million dollars ♪ i'd buy you a house >> welcome back to "new day." mo money, mo problems. at least that's the story for one recent powerball winner. he became an overnight sensation after sharing in last month's $450 million jackpot. but now he says he's paying a heavy price for winning all that money. and turns out he's not alone. who says so? "early start" co-anchor john berman. that's who. >> money can't buy you love, chris cuomo, money can't buy you love. last week's $400 million powerball winner is still choosing to remain anonymous. i have to say, based on what you hear from a lot of past winners, including mr. willie there, that might be a very good idea. >> this is my best outfit.

>> reporter: wild willie sealy won hearts across america when he and his co-workers won big in last month's $450 million powerball jackpot. each member of the group affectionately dubbed the ocean 16 took home almost $4 million each. >> we're very happy, happy, happy. some of my friends would say. >> reporter: but now just weeks later, willie says, he's miserable. telling nbc news it's nonstop drama. his wife even calling the powerball win a curse. there are days i wish we were back to just getting paid every two weeks. you have to change your whole way of life but we didn't want to change the way we live. we like the way we live.ç seeley says he's being overwhelmed with calls ranging from long lost relatives to tv executives asking him to star in reality shows. this lottery curse is not so unusual. sometimes turning winners into

losers. jack whitaker won $314 million in 2002. two years later, his family life was in shambles and he was arrested twice for drunk driving. abraham shakespeare of florida was murdered after winning $31 million. >> when you win $100 million, you're $100 million richer than anyone you know. makes it hard to keep those old friends and family kecks. >> reporter: seeley has this advice for the mystery winner of the recent $400 million powerball. just disappear. get lost while you still can. before you feel too sorry for willie, let me point out a few things here. he quit his job. he bought new cars, he paid off his mortgage. he bought a log cabin and there is also this, he still has no plans to give the money back. that of course is an option. this is all about planning, people ending up with a windfall of money they didn't expect.

it's all about planning and investing the right way. >> taking the time before you have to go accept money and become public if you have to, have a plan in place. >> or disappear as willie would say. >> on the list of problems one can have, i'm sorry, this would be one of the better ones to have to deal with. >> exactly. we'll take it. thank you, john berman. >> there is a solution. coming up next on "new day," we dare you -- we dare you to not tear up over this one. a military mom comes home from afghanistan and surprises her daughter on the football field. we'll talk to both of them in our next hour. you're going to love this one. >> a story that will make you tear up for a different reason. miley cyrus is looking like a top choice for halloween. we'll tell you what your young girls might be asking you for this halloween. i'll give you aç personal tutorial in how to say no.

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yesterday, she had her little boy louis with her. she was getting honored at the chinese theater in hollywood. and she said, i usually don't bring him out because of that reason. he gets scared because he thinks somebody is trying to hurt me and him because there's always so much paparazzi around. >> glad that law was passed. >> me, too. a lot of people glad this morning. >> nischelle, thank you. coming up on "new day," it is not easy to get former president bill clinton to talk about certain things. but piers morgan got him to comment on just every hot button ticket. hillary clinton's plans for 2016. check. his stance on disfunction in washington. check, check. all of it from the question master himself when piers morgan joins us live. plus -- we are four days away from a potential government shutdown. and congress is facing what could be an even bigger fight at the same time. remember the debt ceiling? how does this affect you? we'll have more at the top of the hour. americans take care of business.

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if he can negotiate with putin, he should be able to sit down with john boehner. >> a government shutdown looms as congressries. for a fight over the debt ceiling. how will it affect your bottom line, ahead. driven by delusions. shocking new video this morning showing the navy yard shooter prowling the halls as the massacre began. and new information about his state of mind. clinton gets candid. former president bill clinton talks with cnn about putin, politics, guns and bono. plus, what he says about hillary a run for the white house and a potential presidency for

chelsea. >> your new day continues right now. >> what you need to know. >> how dare you take away the one thing that i wanted the most and turn it into something for me to be ashamed of. >> what you just have to see. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. it's thursday, september 26th. 8:00 in the east. coming up, a story we've been following for you. outrage in montana. a former teacher about to walk out of prison after serving barely a month for the rape of a 14-year-old student. the judge who sentenced him has also been coming under fire for issuing a short sentence. and what he also said about the victim during that process.

>> then a cnn exclusive for you. a young champion ice skater seemingly destined for greatness until, she says, her career derailed by a coach who turned out to be a predator. again, a story you'll only see here on cnn. break out the tissues this morning. you'll really need them in a good way. you'll watch as a 13-year-old wisconsin girl is reuniteded with her military mom. happens to happen in front of 80,000 football fans. guess what? you get to meet both mom and daughter live later this hour. looking ford that. >> but first, congress has just four days to give president obama a bill preventing a government shutdown. but even if lawmakers can find a way to keep the government up and running, the battles in washington are far from over. the problem with the current fight is that it will be momentum for the next one, which matters arguably even more. and that will be the fight to approve an increase in the debt ceiling. okay. otherwise for the first time in

u.s. history, we will default on our bills. cnn's dana bash is live on capitol hill. can't be more important than that. right, dana? >> we have seen this movie before, chris. people who are really fed up with congress careening from one crisis to another are not going to be happy with the double whammy around the corner. it would be one thing for the government to shut down in four days. national parks would close. medical research interrupted. but then economic catastrophe may come 17 days later when the u.s. could default on its loans if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. the white house is warning not to use it as a bargaining chip. >> there is no negotiating over congress' responsibility to ensure we do not default. >> but gop sources tell cnn that as soon as saturday, house republicans are planning to pass a bill that raises the debt ceiling but also adds several gop priorities like the keystone pipeline or tax reform or even delaying obama care for one year. >> the real play here is going

to be leading up to the debt ceiling discussion where we could get a full delay for a year, including taxes of obama care. and i think the president is ready to do that. >> fat chance, say democrats. >> their strategy will fail because the financial markets will pistol whip the republican conference into doing then what they should be doing now. and that is pay america's bills. >> but let's go back to that first deadline. the looming government shutdown. senator, i know you're exhausted. ted cruz finally sat down after his headline grabbing conservative celebrity making -- >> i tweeted a speech that ashton kutcher gave. >> reporter: 21-plus hour talkathon against obama care. >> how do you feel for standing there so long. >> i feel terrific. i feel energized the american people had an opportunity, i hope, to engage in this debate

and have their voice heard. >> cruz still wants to only fund the government if obama care is defunded. >> i'm assuming cruz's strategy does not work. if he doesn't get enough republicans to come his way which right now it doesn't look like is going to happen. the democratic-led senate is expected to pass a bill funding the government but not defunding obama care friday or saturday. that leaves two or three days for the house to act. kate there will be an important meeting of house republicans later this morning where they'll plot their strategy. gop sources tell us they are considering adding one or two things like repealing a tax on medical devices if they do that, the shutdown hot potato goes back to the senate. we'll see what happens there. >> hot potato. not the way we want to be playing around with our economy. dana bash, great to see you. you've heard the political back and forth. that will continue. what does this all mean for you? christine romans is here to break that down for us. >> you are absolutely right. this is no way to run a country or a business. and that's what we are. this is what it means.

a shutdown may be more imminent but the administration officials i've spoken to are more concerned about the debt ceiling. the debt ceiling, as the treasury secretary said, would be catastrophic. during a showdown, mandatory spending wouldn't be affected. that means seniors would still get their social security payments, right? but that's not the case if you don't raise the debt ceiling. no spending. october 17th is the day when the u.s. will have less than $50 billion on hand. $30 billion is what the treasury secretary estimates. and then the government can't borrow any more money. if the government can't borrow, what does that mean? like when you bank account is empty and you can't find any extra source of cash, the government zill to stop paying some of its debts like interest on our loans. we owe billions to china. we wouldn't be able to pay social security. not all of it to seniors or medicare and medicaid. 110 million people who are in one of these programs. and what could almost be worse here is that we don't know how markets will react. we don't know what the reaction overall around the rest of the world would be. how many hundreds of billions of

dollars could we owe in borrowing costs. we don't know until we get there if we get there. that's the real big concern here. two very dangerous situations wrapped up in politics that would matter immensely to markets and to main street. kate? >> absolutely right. christine, thanks so much. great breaking that down for what it means for you. new this morning, secretary of state john kerry is set to sit down with the foreign minister of iran. a meeting that plane hope will ease 30 years of tension photocopies will be histor nick that a meeting between the countries hasn't happened in decades. but bigger concern is will it lead to anything meaningful. cnn's senior international correspondent nick payton walsh is at the u.n. with that. >> chris, the real question is, is iran serious. john kerry was just asked that a minute ago leaving a meet with the chinese foreign minister. he said i'll let you know when i see they are serious. rowhani, the new iranian president adopted a much warmer

tone than his predecessor ahmadinejad. the five permanent members of the security council plus germany and iranian foreign minister zarif will also be in the room. will be the enrichment and future for inspections in that country. but however these negotiations turn out and rowhani said he'd like a deal within three months. that's a pretty big ask. however these turn out, the sheer fact we have a u.s. and iranian official at this high level meeting in a room is something really we have not seen for 34 years. back to you, kate. >> nick, thanks so much for that. so iran's president is stirring controversy with his comments about the holocaust. during an exclusive interview with cnn's christiane amanpour ror rowhani condemned the crimes. it's relative to his pred source who denied the holocaust ever happened. now an iranian news agency is questioning the accuracy of

cnn's translation. for more, here's reza in tehran. >> kate, this was a bizarre controversy that came out but it's important not to blow it out of proportion considering what's happening in new york today. the controversy was sparked by a single hard-line news organization that has no direct official links with the state government but is backed by the revolutionary guard. here's what happened. president rowhani acknowledged the holocaust in this hard-line news agency. denied he acknowledged it and then criticized cnn. this was the question by cnn's christiane amanpour. >> i want to know you, your position on the holocaust. do you accept what it was and what was it? >> this was the answer by iranian president hassan rowhani. >> when it comes to speaking of the dimensions of the holocaust, it's the historians that should reflect on it. but in general, i can tell you that any crime that happens in history against humanity,

including the crime the nazis created towards the jews is reprehensible and condemnable. >> his acknowledgment of the holocaust is big news in the u.s. tv networks contrasted rowhani's comments with ahmadinejad who often questioned the holocaust in speeches at the u.n. general assembly. back here, rowhani's comments received little media attention with the exception of farce news. the semiofficial hard-line news agency claimed rowhani never acknowledged the holocaust and accused cnn of fabricating the report by mistranslate rog hawnny's answhaw rowhani's comments. the website shows the translation from amanpour's interview and claims these parts have been added or completely altered. and that this statement was a product of conceptual and

nonprecise translation. >> ridiculous. i mean, i don't even dignify that with even a comment. we put the entire transcript online. we've got the entire 56-minute interview if anybody at farce cares to read it. we have his trancealator. i speak persian. i know what he said. >> his comment puts a spotlight on iran's bitter and complicated rivalry with israel. iranian hard-liners have frequently suggested israeli leaders embellish and exaggerate the horrors of the holocaust that justify the occupation of palestinian land. israeli leaders have in turn accuse iran's leadership of anti-semitism, labeled them enemy number one and pointed to their skepticism of the holocaust as proof. president rowhani's comments seem to be an effort to defuse iran/israeli tensions over the holocaust at the cost of annoy something iranian hard-liners. this controversy comes against

the back drop of a lot of talk about the possibility of improved relations between tehran and washington. and it shows that a lot of people are listening to every word president rowhani says and the reaction that follows. chris, kate? >> absolutely right. reza, thank you for that. whether it's relations with iran or the crisis in syria or his wife's political ambitions, bill clinton has plenty to say about it. the former president sat down with cnn's piers morgan for a sweeping interview that even included an impersonation of bono. piers will be joining us live in a few minutes. first, here are some of the highlights of their conversation starting with america's potentially thawing relationship with tehran. >> christiane amanpour interviewed president rowhani. he basically admitted there had been a holocaust which was certainly nothing that ahmadinejad would acknowledge. >> it's interesting commentary

in the ghorld which we are living that admitting that the holocaust occurred qualifies as being a moderate. i was hoping, and i think the president was, that the opening of the u.n. would give them a chance to, you know, maybe even do more. so i think we just have to keep working at it. and i feel the same way about the russian effort to get the syrian government to declare, disclose and then hand over their chemical weapons. we'd be crazy not to take advantage of this. >> something certainly sounds too good to be true, it usually is too good to be true. can we really believe that vladimir putin with his own self-interest for russia is orchestrating this huge maneuver to remove all of assad's chemical weapons and it's just going to happen? >> no, we don't have to believe it. we just have to see what happens and make the most of what happens. you work for the best and prepare for the worst in this

business. but i think it would be a terrible mistake not to take advantage of the opportunity. >> don't you also have to have, mr. president, a functional washington? there is a sense that there's never been more dysfunctional, more divisive, more personally abusive. do you and newt gingrich eventually worked it out between you. how do you get stuff done in a dysfunctional washington? >> it was interesting. we worked it out when he was trying to run me out of town. we were still working together. but at the time, because they shut the government down twice and because they wished to hold on to their jobs, the republicans, they wanted to maintain their majority, they believed they had to show up for work and get something done. this reapportionment has created a climate, particularly in the house of representatives but also in some of the states where there is -- they are basically one party states, where they believe that they don't have to get anything done. they just believe that they have

to demonize the opposition and say whatever they are going to say. >> i met your wife for the first time, and your daughter actually. she looks fantastic. she looks completely reinvigorated. seemed absolutely on fire with ideas and dynamism and so on and just screamed to me one thing. i'm running. can you put us all out of our misery? >> no. >> would you want your wife to go through the rigors of the presidency knowing what it's like these days? >> well, the answer to that question is, i want her to do what she wants to do. and i think it's too soon for her to decide. >> who do you think might make the better president? your wife or your daughter? >> the day after tomorrow, my wife because she's had more experience. over the long run, chelsea. she knows more than we do about everything.

>> she's like, no. piers, i ask, you answer, morgan. >> how exciting it is to be here at last. 8:00 a.m. this ungodly hour. >> this is a miracle upon miracles. piers said he was never going to wake up this early to come on the show. >> i went to bed last night. it seems like i'm right back here already. and i am. very excited. i love this show. i watch you every morning. normally lying in bed with a nice cup of coffee. instead, i'm here. >> let me ask you a question. one of the things that make your interviews very impressive is that you think while the conversation is going on, how would you rate the former president's ability to think while he's answering. >> number one. bill clinton is the most impressive politician. and, in fact, leader of any kind i've ever interviewed. i've done it twice now. he does exactly what you just said. he listens intently to the question. he formulates an answer. i tried to phrase the questions if a way he hasn't heard before.

everywhere he goes at the moment, like hillary, like chelsea, they get asked the same thing. is hillary going to run. if you ask them that, they have a pat answer. ask him who would be the better president, your wife or your daughter, make him think. what an answer. tomorrow, my wife. down the line, my daughter. an amazingly quick response to a question he hadn't been asked in that way. but what i liked about him was also the kind of overview he brings to dealing business with vladimir putin or with your political opponents in america. it was a great template. i really hope barack obama and john boehner were watching that because whether it was putin or gingrich, he said, in public, he would say the right things. but behind closed doors, mano to mano, he would beat them up and they would thrash out a resolution. the most interesting thing last night, when he said putine i said did putin ever renege on any deal he agreed one on one with you? he said no.

he always kept his tword me. it was a significant admission. in public he'd denigrate america or whatever. but in private, always trustworthy. i don't see that relationship in washington between the president and the speaker. that he had again with newt gingrich. one on one, he could trust him. you don't have to believe people. you don't even have to really trust them. you just have to get things done. and i don't see that happening in washington. i'm not sure i see it happening between president obama and vladimir putin. but, you know, as he said, you have to try. but i really hope they were watching last night because as a model of how to do business, bill clinton is the guy they should be listening to. >> in your interviews, you allow yourself to kind of just be part of the conversation and get taken down whatever road you're going to head down. what surprised you about the interview with bill clinton. you can always expect the man is a master politician. he's great at giving a speech and delivering a line. we've known that. what surprised you about him? >> i love the way he answers

questions very frankly but always with a lot of thought. he clearly thought, for example, about christiane amanpour's interview with rowhani. he thought about what to say about that. rather than give something reaction to it which is off pattern of what people would normally say. he said, yeah, isn't it amazing that the president of iran can concede there may have been a holocaust and we're supposed to view this as moderate. it was a great concept. everyone started to laugh, even though he was deadly serious. it's that kind of overview that he takes, which comes from years of experience. i talk a lot about the second amendment. as you know, on my show and gun control and so on. but the 22nd amendment to me is even more flawed because that's the one that stops presidents serving more than two terms. >> come on, piers morgan. >> bill clinton would still be president now and for another 20 years. >> there's a large section of the country that would disagree with that. >> what i appreciate, too, you managed to have a little fun, which isn't hard. he's a charming man. he has a good sense of humor. >> his bono impression isn't

quite as good. >> bono's was really good of him. >> bono does a better american accent than i think bill clinton does his irish accent, but i thought the glasses. i met him at a party the night before. >> he came with props. >> i met him at a party you didn't go to and now you regret it. i said to him, can you do a bono impression? he said -- i said just think about it. when i saw him go for the glasses, i was like, get in there. and he was in that moment, the entire world will see that within about 20 minutes. >> i literally thought of this. can you do a clinton? >> well, i don't know, i mean, i'm a president of the united states and my wife and my daughter -- i can do a better bono actually. >> too handsome. too handsome to pull off the impression. >> i'm glad you recognized that. because both the ladies were not

going there even though i knew from their eyes -- >> you distracted. >> we did not know that piers morgan can read minds as well. >> he can also ask a hell of a question. a master of intelligent kfrgss. watch "piers morgan live" tonight. >> we have chelsea tonight. big interview with chelsea clinton and she's as smart as a whippet. i think you watch tonight and you come away like i do thinking, bill has a point. yes, it's all about hillary. down the line, do not rule out chelsea clinton. >> 9:00 p.m. eastern tonight. piers morgan, thank you. >> i'm going back to bed. thank you for having me. >> thank you. thank you for the visual. >> piers is leaving us. we'll have to come at you with all the news going on. >> let's get at the headlines. good morning to everybody at home. a newly released audio message purportedly from al shabaab's leader claim the group was behind the mall attack in nairobi. fbi agents reportedly at the scene of that deadly mall

massacre in nairobi. according to the a.p. they have's task of fingerprinting the scene, testing dna analysis. the michael jackson jury deliberations could resume today. yesterday an attorney told jurors jackson died because of his own bad choices. former president george h.w. bush acting as witness at a same-sex witness. bush 41 and wife barbara were in maine as two of their longtime friends tied the knot. the couple posted a picture on facebook of bush signing the marriage license. gay marriage became legal in maine last december. want to show you this crazy video out of antarctica. do not try this ever. argentine pilot flies really low over the photographers missing them but by what looks like a matter of feet. it's a c-130 hercules plane

known for flying low. frowned upon but i get you get away with certain things in antarctica. >> how do you respond to, i've got a great idea, guys. you just stand right there. >> that shows some talent. who else is talented around here? >> since we're up today, maybe we can talk about the weather. we're definitely talking about 70s in the northeast. finally, it's gorgeous here and staying that way all the way through the weekend. i love this. where it's been so bad, it's been raining for almost months in the southeast. all this dry air pushing into the area. so you'll have a gorgeous weekend. perfect timing to be try. temperatures beautiful. a lot of 80s out there. it's warm on the east coast. so where is it cold? try the west coast. it's still snowing and, yes, i do mean snowing. a foot of snow right in the tetons in wyoming. 6 inches in yellowstone. all this cold air is still in

place. we'll ton see the snow out there. best chances today pushing closer towards wyoming. temperatures there a good 20 degrees below normal. it's nice to be warm on the east coast where it's chilly on the west coast. >> thank you indra. coming up next, a 14-year-old girl raped by her high school teacher. now the man responsible is about to be released from jail. she can't respond to any of this because she has committed suicide since this happened. after only a month, he was only behind bars for a month. her mother is outraged that the judge who handed down that short sentence. and you won't believe what he said about it. and she trusted her coach to help her fulfill her dreams. we want you to meet a figure skater who said her coach didn't make her a champion. he made her a victim. what happened? the exclusive story coming up. n. that's why i take doctor recommended colace capsules. [ male announcer ] for certain medical conditions where straining should be avoided, colace softens the stool for effective relief from occasional constipation.

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welcome back to "new day." the former montana teacher sentenced to just 31 days in prison for raping a student, he becomes a free man today. the case sparked national outrage, not just for the short sentence, but also for the judge's comments. cnn's kyung lah has been following this story. >> reporter: good morning. in less than three hours this teacher is scheduled to walk out of jail. he'll likely have to check in with his probation officers in billings but essentially a free man for now having served his short sentence. for the last 31 days, prison has been stacey rambalt's home. later this morning the former high school teacher is set to walk out, having served just one month behind bars for raping his

14-year-old student as she waited for her teacher to face trial, morales' mother said charise was tormented by bullying and victim blaming. before the case was heard, she committed suicide. >> she was beautiful. but hopefully he'll get justice. i hope. >> reporter: justice has failed at every step, says charise's mother. not only did she lose her daughter but then the judge handed down the sentence saying the girl looked older than her age and was as much in control. the judge who has ducked cnn's questions has since admitted the sentence may have been illegal. state laws mandate a two-year minimum for this crime. the sentence and the judge's comments sparked national outrage. earlier this week, petitions with 140,000 signatures were

delivered to a watchdog panel demanding the judge's removal. and the courts, prosecutors have appealed the sentence to the state supreme court hoping to send him back to prison and for the victim's mother, a cry for justice. a hollow search along a trail of anguish. >> does that pain ever fade? >> no. no. i think we just get used to it. so you don't cry every day. >> and this mother is bracing for what she is anticipating will be a terribly tough day. she is praying that she simply does not run into this man. this is not that large of a town. chris, kate? >> that's a horrible thought. >> kyung, thank you. coming up -- startling new accusations against a figure skating coach. what one athlete says he did to

ruin her dreams of olympic glory. a much happier story because we could all use one. a wisconsin girl got quite the surprise. just look at her running when her mom was being honored for her service to our country. we'll show you the emotional moment in just a few minutes and we're going to meet them live right here on "new day."

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let's get to michaela for the five things you need to know. >> four days until the government shutdown. the government poised to spe ed spending bill. the republicans still trying to find a way to gut the president's health care reforms. a big moment for the u.s. in iran. secretary of state john kerry set to meet with his iranian counterpart. the highest level meeting between the nations since 1979 in hopes of eventual diplomatic relations. the fbi's release nude surveillance video of the washington navy yard shootings. an fbi spokeswoman said gunman aaron alexis was delusional and believed he was being controlled or influenced by elect romagnetic waves. saving the post office. a panel looks at ways to make the postal service more relevant and less of a financial drain in the age of e-mail. at number five, another court date for troubled former teen star amanda bynes. this time over an incident in may when she allegedly tossed a bong out of her 36th floor apartment in new york. we always update those five things to know so be sure to

visit newdaycnn.com for the latest. the winter olympics are just a few months away. our next story involves a figure skater who once seemed deemed for greatness. she was once considered one of the best in the world until she says her hopes were dashed by the very man she thought would lead her to glory. so what happened? >> this is really a cautionary tale, chris and kate, of a teenage figure skater who truly was one of the best and the brightest. well on her way to the top. the man she thought would lead her to olympic gold turned out to be her worst nightmare. >> i feel like everything that i accomplished came with a cost. it came with strings. and i didn't feel like any of it was my own anymore. it was all his, and he took it all away. >> reporter: 18-year-old morgan grant was once considered one of the best figure skaters for her

age in the united states. an ice dancer who was well on her way to compete for the u.s. at the highest levels. >> i wanted a team usa jacket that said team usa on the back, and i would have been a part of the u.s. skating team, representing america in international competitions. >> the last piece of the puzzle, morgan says, was to hire a first class coach who turned out to be this man. gingri gingrich, celebrating the russian team at the olympics. a no-brainer they thought. >> everyone thought he was one of the better, best ice dancers for a very long time. >> according to morgan and her father, that coach turned out to be a predator. and in the middle of this competition at lake plas nid 2011, he asked 16-year-old morgan to join him in his hotel room to talk about the competition or so she thought. >> what happened? >> he closed the door and

reached behind me to turn off the light and then pushed me against the wall. and he started kissing me. and he is 50 years old and a smoker. and i was like really overwhelmed with everything that was going on and freaked out. and i didn't know what was happening. he pushed me on to the bed in the hotel room. and climbed on top of me and started touching me inappropriately and the kissing continued. this lasted for about 20 minutes. i don't remember a single thought that ran through my head during that moment. but i know that i finally looked up and said it's late. i have to go and thank god he listened. i don't know why he did. >> she fled his room and tried to reset her focus. >> i got up and left and went back to my room and i -- you know, i laid down and just kind of tried to forget the whole thing. >> over the next few weeks, he

began sending her suggestive text messages. >> he would say stuff like, i miss you, or i love you. stuff that, again, he would act like we were in some sort of romantic relationship. >> as it turns out, morgan is not alone. over the last three years, the u.s. figure skating association has suspended nearly a dozen male figure skating coaches across the country for inappropriate behavior. in fact, the national governing board is so concerned that it's thinking about creating an outside agency to police coaches' behavior. >> the vast majority are outstanding coaches. but it's like any profession. there's some bad apples, and they have an incredible amount of power. and they are dealing with young children. there has to be a complete zero tolerance for misconduct with these young people. >> reporter: for morgan, crying out for help wasn't easy. >> he had a reputation at the rink that i was skating at and training at and everyone --

everyone loved him. and i knew that when it came down to it, if it was my word against his, no one would want to believe me. >> reporter: she eventually told her dad, after criminal charges, he entered guilty please to misdemeanor charges of child endangerment and third-degree assault. the family has since filed a civil suit against the coach. because of that pending lawsuit s, they told cnn they had no comment. in the end, morgan grant decided to drop out of competitive skating. she'll never wear that team usa jacket. >> if he were sitting here right now, what would you say to him? >> how dare you. how dare you take away the one thing that i wanted the most in my entire life and turn it into something for me to be ashamed

of. i did it. you didn't do it. i did it. i accomplished everything that i did. and for him to do this one stupid thing and take everything that i was proud of and turn it into a source of shame is disgusting. >> that russian coach is suspended from u.s. figure skating. that means he cannot coach in any sanctioned programs. but morgan's story is one to think about. how many girls and boys in competitive sports share her story. how many times abuse of power happens and inappropriate behavior is overlooked just so a goal can be reached and dreams won't be crushed. >> very strong to come forward. >> she's a very brave young woman. >> thank you, pamela. coming up next on "new day," the military mom who gave her daughter the surprise of a lifetime. a stadium full of people are watching. mom and daughter joining us live to talk about that moment, next. [ bird chirping ]

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welcome back to "new day." who doesn't love a good surprise, right? 13-year-old bella lund got the surprise of her life at a wisconsin badgers football game. during their salute to military families. just take a look. >> she's an avid badger fan and enjoys playing and competing in both volleyball and cross-country. we also salute bella's mother, captain jane lund, better known as j.r.

>> you could watch that over and over again. bella lund and her mother captain j.r. lund are joining us this morning from wisconsin. we've watched this multiple times. i am getting choked up yet again watching that beautiful moment between you two. it is great to meet you. captain, how did this surprise come about? because bella knew nothing about this, that you were coming home, especially to surprise her on a football field. >> yeah, we -- i was very happy we were able to pull it off. it was a friend of mine, katie olson. she mentioned it. i was talking about potentially surprising bella. she said why don't you surprise her at a badger game. something i hadn't thought of. didn't think was an option. she set everything up with the uw athletics. they ran with it. and we were able to pull it off, which was super cool. >> mom had been away for six months. did you ever think that she would pull off a surprise like this, that she would make this kind of an entrance? >> no way.

i thought that maybe something small at school but no way something as big as a badger game. >> no kidding. >> and i took a look at you, j.r., while we were watching this clip and you go, wow it was loud. it was a roar of the crowd when this moment was happening. bella, what was that moment like, can you even describe when you turned around and saw mom there? >> well, it was just kind of like -- i wasn't expecting it. so it was a huge shock. and when i was on the field, i was already nervous, but then when i saw her, everything just kind of went away and i was just really happy. surprised. >> to say the least. >> j.r., what was it like for you? >> it was an amazing day. i was really nervous about trying to pull it all off. bella was with my friend katie and then i was trying to skirt them. so we were texting each other, letting each other know where we were so we wouldn't cross paths. the timeline getting there.

i was so nervous it wasn't going to happen that i didn't really let myself think about it a lot until they pulled me down below and then i realized, you know, i was about to see my daughter, very, very shortly. overwhelming. very exciting. >> it's exciting regardless to, you know, reunite with your daughter after a long absence. but especially when you've been away. you are serving in afghanistan. you are serving in a very dangerous place and you know that your daughter is home, waiting for you to return. did that just make that moment even that much sweeter? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, she, you know, she did a great job while i was gone, but i think it's really hard on families. they are really concerned. even if they go around with their day-to-day life, but in the back of their minds, they're always worried and always nervous. to be able to come home and surprise her and just to have so much support around her. people shared their stories with us afterwards. other children and young adults who had deployed parents came up to her and shared their stories. just really wonderful to have all of that support from the community.

>> and what is that time like, bella? mom is away. serving our country, which i know you're proud of, but you also know she's in a very dangerous place. when you look back on those long six months, what is it like trying to stay connected with her during that time? >> sometimes it was harder to stay connected because of the nine-hour time difference. when i was waking up, she was going to bed. over the summer it got easier because i could stay up later and i didn't have to wake up early for school. and that was a lot easier. but it was hard. >> yeah. >> so captain, real quick, what's next for you? >> i'm going to go back to my civilian year and i'm looking to see what sort of deployments are out there, potentially volunteer for something in the near future. so we'll see. >> from everyone here at "new day," thank you so much for your service and thank you, bella and thank you, captain, for sharing this beautiful moment with us this morning. everyone can use a little heartwarming story these days. >> absolutely.

yes, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. chris? >> and anything we can do to feature the service of the men and women who are protecting this country. it's a great story, kate. we've got to make it a double stuff moment. here's the good stuff. today's edition, 8-year-old jonathan bent. so his tennessee apartment complex goes up in flames in the middle of the night. terrible, right? jonathan is sleeping. he leaps out of bed and into action as this firefighter's helmet cam you are watch. the footage shows the fire was terrifying. engulfed almost the entire building. did that stop jonathan? no. he ran from apartment to apartment making sure people got out. >> he comes and starts knocking on neighbors doors. knocking on this door. help, help, fire, fire. >> 8 years old. turns out an elderly neighbor fell asleep with a lit cigarette. you know how that goes. but the actions of this brave young boy, third time, 8 years old. he ensured no one got hurt. so where did jonathan find the

courage? >> i don't like people dying. i just want them to live. whenever people get sick. johnson is a hero because he woke up everyone and, well, i just feel like a hero. >> that's right. and well he should. talk about in a moment of crisis, does the right thing and that's why it is the good stuff. look at the fire. >> how scary. >> look what he helped avoid. that's enough of the fire. come back to us. now it's too scary. the good stuff. not the scary stuff. so thank goodness for that kid. 8 years old. amazing. another thing that makes it amazing is the stories come from you. we want more of them. we announced a brand new cnn ireport campaign to catch all of your good stuff. please log on to cnnireport.com/goodstuff and find out how you can become part of the "new day" family. coming up next -- no mask.

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welcome back to "new day." a quick look at our top stories. just in to cnn, two sets of human remains have been found on the doomed "costa concordia." 32 people were killed when the cruise ship wrecked off the giglio coast in 2012. two bodies have not been recovered. the boat was rotated upright in the water earlier this month. that's a big discovery there. four days and counting for lawmakers to approve a spending bill to keep the government running. even with both sides find common ground they'll need to improve an increase in the debt ceiling by mid-october. the highest level meeting between the u.s. and iran in more than three decades is set for today. john kerry meet with iran's foreign minister muhammad zarif at the united nations.

those are your headlines. biggest headline of all. it's time for john berman to give us his "new day" award of the day. >> it is almost halloween season. we found something in the "new york daily news" that might make you scream in terror or something else. there's a halloween theme park called shocktober fate of in pennsylvania that decided their regular old haunted house just wasn't enough. they wanted to make it scarier. how do you make it scarier? more slime. more screams. more ghosts. no. they decided to go in another direction. naked. >> what? >> you go into the haunted house naked. it is called the naked and scared challenge. the owner of the naked and scared challenge told the "daily news" it's taking people down to their core. making them as vulnerable as possible with zero protection. >> and then having cameras hidden all over the place. >> there, they claim they were

inspired by "naked and afraid" on the discovery channel. there some are things about this that protect you allegedly, you know. you have to sign a disclaimer. you have to be over 18. there are private changing rooms before you go in and after you come out. and sexual misconduct or disrespectful behavior will not be tolerated. >> some people being naked to begin with is disrespectful behavior. >> what are you talking about? >> as is dancing. >> is alcohol served at this? >> the whole thing is shocking to me like on many different levels. i mean -- >> so what is the award? >> the award to shocktober fest is the, i hope it's a warm haunted house award. you know, talk about shocking. all right. there you go. >> anyone? anyone? >> can you imagine? >> turn up the heat. >> they say being naked makes you more scared. >> they should make all the people who are scaring you be naked.

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